I just got into an argument with several of my co-workers. It started with a discussion about relationships. One of the few women who works out here was talking about how she can’t find a man and hasn’t been able to for years.
She’s a black lady. Not unattractive or fat. Probably late 30′s. I told her she would probably never find a man. She asked my why I said that. My response:
“Because you’re too independent.”
I should have seen the shitstorm coming, but I walked right into it.
Her: “What do you mean I’m too independent? What does that have to do with it?”
Me: “Do you need a man?”
Her: “Hell no, I don’t need a man. I can take care of my damn self. I make money, I don’t need anyone to take care of me.”
Me: “If you don’t need a man, we don’t need or want you either. End of story.”
I never realized that most of my male co-workers were closet White Knights. It was almost sickening. A shouting match started. I was simply trying to explain my point of view calmly. I could get about 3 words out before she would shout over me mid-sentence and go on for several minutes, with several men chiming in to support her. Example:
“Look, you ladies are trying to overturn 3,000 years of ingrained gender roles in one generation.”
Her: “It’s the mens fault! Y’all don’t want to man up and handle y’alls business and take care of us, so we have to make money.”
Me: “I will concede that a lot of the responsibility for the current state of affairs rests with the men, primarily for allowing the feminist movement to happen in the first place.”
Her: “You using all them big words to try to sound smart, but no woman wants to rely on a man for anything.”
Me: “That’s odd. My woman seems quite content to let me handle the hard, MANual labor while she takes care of the house.”
Her: “That’s just cause she don’t know any better or she’s messed up in the head.”
Full Stop. I felt blood rushing into my face. This would have been a good time to shut up.
Me: “What exactly are you implying?”
Her: “You done messed that girl up. Some of us women can think for ourselves.”
Me: “Did I ever say that my woman couldn’t think for herself?”
Her: “You said she doesn’t have a job. If she stays at home and takes care of your ass, there must be something wrong with her.”
Me: “That’s odd, considering she has a good man that provides everything she needs. You’re out here doing manual labor and bitching about how no man wants you. Which one of you has the problem?”
She finally decided to leave, which left me alone with the White Knight Brigade.
“Where do you come up with this shit, Illusion? Times have changed, we have to change with them.”
Me: “The Hell we do. I haven’t changed. I won’t change. Just because the TV and popular media says we are supposed to let women tell us what to do, marry women who think they are better than us, and work ourselves to death to try to meet their frivolous needs doesn’t mean we have to.”
“You’re going to lead a lonely life, Illusion. No woman is going to put up with that for long. You have to understand that things aren’t like they used to be, man. No one thinks like that anymore.”
Me: “You think I’m alone? You think I’m the only man who still has a pair and is proud of it? There are at least 10,000 others just like me. And more turning to our way of thinking every day. Men just need to learn from real Men, and have someone explain that they don’t have to go along with this BS. Sometimes all it takes is a few words and hard truths to make men realize that WE are still entitled to be Men.”
I’m not going to keep up with the dialogue, but it went on for another ten minutes. I explained what I try to do, in regards to bringing back the old gender roles and encouraging men to be more masculine and get back to our roots. Perhaps if their White Knight button had not just been pushed, I could have made more progress. Two of the guys started agreeing with several of my points, but several others just kept throwing a monkey wrench in everything so I had to leave. After catching a smoke in my shop, I realized the anger wasn’t going to leave. So, in the time honored tradition of this blog, I poured it onto the screen. I feel a little better. I may come back and delete this rant later, but this blog serves as my outlet so there it is.
Dr’s Orders: It’s hard to do sometimes, but spread the word where possible in real life too. We need to reach people however we can. I’ve managed to get a few men at work to start down the path to Red Pill Awareness, but it’s a battle I fight every day.
-Dr. Illusion
White knights are usually a hopeless cause. They may wake up if they’re taken to the divorce court cleaners. But many do not. They can go back and end up divorced three times and living in their car and they still don’t get it. The older they are the more difficult it is for them to change.
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
Very true. AJ from Embrace The Hunt, or another one?
Naah, I read Embrace the Hunt, but I’ve never commented or anything there. Good site though.
Same for yours, you’ve got a good thing going here.
Should have said men can think for themselves too and since she has a hard time finding one, asked her what is that implying?
That may have been too subtle for her. The reason I got so upset when she said that about my woman is because it’s that kind of crap that makes women ashamed to be housewives. So called “successful, independent women” telling them that staying home isn’t good enough. When my girl and I meet new women while out and about, they always ask her what she does for a living. When she says take care of me, they always look down their nose at her. It pisses me off.
Thank you so much for pointing this out, dear. I know you know this because I have stressed it quite a few times. But more men need to know.
I absolutely love serving you and taking care of you because of the fact that you are a true man, a respectable man, and a man that I know I can always depend on. I couldn’t give a shit less how much other women may turn their noses up at me when I tell them that I’m a housewife, but it does piss me the fuck off that they think they’re above me because of the fact that they embrace their “grrrrl power”. It’s infuriating. But, in the end, who’s really better off?
You’ve been brainwashed! Why would you enjoy having the opportunity to read and learn feminine skills like cooking? Any woman should hate being able to take a walk around in the country, work on her tan, have lunch with friends and do whatever hobby she enjoys. I have messed your head up.
Indeed.
Nothing makes blue pill takers angrier than confronting a person who tells them everything they believe and do is based on lies, propaganda and indoctrination.
I’ve had more success than I expected when i first started this campaign in my real life. It’s just the vehemence of those who reject the truth that shocks me. Thanks for stopping by.
Just asking? This sounds more of a typical response from a black lady. If you would have not mentioned her take I would have assumend she was.
I mentioned she was black in the post. An operator, of course. We don’t let women do mens jobs. I’ll talk to you about it tonight. What really depressed me was that the biggest white knight was my mentor, TW.
Why would you even have that conversation with a coworker in the workplace? You’re there to make money to live, and challenging people’s deep-seated beliefs, their whole life experience aggressively isn’t going to help you.
She’s just a product of the culture, a piece of driftwood. And she’s past the age where she can easily change. You can’t tell someone like that to turn on a dime.
I guess you just wanted to be right.
Why would I have that conversation in the workplace? Because I bloody well felt like it. Because I believe what I say. Because there’s nothing anyone can do to stop me. Because not only will that company not touch me, but if they did I am a highly skilled craftsman with job offers all over the country.
Also, our HR department is not the boogeyman that most are. A woman went up there to complain about all the foul language and shit that us men use a few months ago. HR told her that she was the problem and she needs to respect that we are craftsman in stressful situations.
Is that enough reasons for you?
Should we only be hard on the web? Should we bow to the feminist imperative in real life, then blog about how badass we are? If you have skimmed my blog, you may have noticed that I show my face.
Even if the feminists managed to hurt me, I have dual citizenship in Germany. Germany has a booming solar power industry. I’m on the verge of blowing this joint anyway.
Are you insinuating that I should be afraid to speak the truth?
@Dr. Illusion, related to your original post and your response to DrT, comes this timely article:
http://www.returnofkings.com/833/the-limits-of-american-feminism
I agree Dr. Illusion. I have been spreading the Red Pill whereever i go for the last year or so. Opposition has been fierce. But everytime i also see some people with very thoughtfull faces afterwards. Makes it worthwhile.
Should you really want to emigrate try here first:
Very good upcoming firm.
http://www.egg-tech.de/
I often speak my mind at work despite it being a very female-centric atmosphere. Sure I get some backlash, but I will never hold my tongue regardless of where I am. What you did is exactly what I would have done and have done many times since I am around the hens clucking so often.
Right on, my friend. It’s time to draw a line in the sand. This far, and no farther. Start pushing back.
They wonder why they cannot find or hold a man long enough without them chiming “i don’t need a man” mantra. I wish i were there to have seen this! Some women think they can have everything but nature always trump them i the end. I remember when me and my wife worked in the same company. Every morning she would bring me my breakfast to my desk in front of all these women. Set up the food for me to eat without any hesitation from then until now she still takes care of me like a REAL woman should. We have been married for 9 years now and she still looks out for me.
If women could stop this independent shit then they would most likely not end up a cat lady. i believe the reason why there are so many white knights is because as men we have lost our idea on how to be a man. We need REAL role models me who are men. i have always felt that we lost our way and i was lost until a few months back when i found sites like yours that helped spread the idea of being a man.
When i was younger i was a white knight! I believed in the BS. But as i got older i became less of a white knight and more of a black knight. I got tired of being played with so i grew a pair and donned my black armor. I guess age has made me jaded but i believe that as men we need to teach and tell others. I’m sure a few co workers that were there are looking into websites like these to become enlightened.
I apologize for the long essay here but its just stuff that needed to be said. I got your back Doc.
I appreciate the support. Sounds like you have a good woman.
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